This time, we sat down with Bren Orton (@bren.orton), a professional kayaker, one of the founders of SEND, a group of kayakers who chase the biggest waterfalls, hardest rapids, and capture it all on camera, and one hell of a human being. I am amped, electrified to be bringing you this conversation. I got to know Bren back when I was working for another publication, The Frynge so it was great to catch up again.

In this episode, Bren shares how he would do anything to get into the kayak, getting malaria 8 times, bombing down waterfalls, some of the fuck-ups that have let to even greater successes, and more. Without further ado, please enjoy this wide-ranging, exhilarating conversation with Bren Orton.

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